EVE Search - New drones, modules and what not

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James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.10.31 15:06:00 - [1] I rather like it. EW drones are only going to be limited to 5, and will suffer stacking penalties, so I don't see a huge problem. 1 large jamming drone vs. a strength 20 sensor has a jamming chance of 1.5 / 20 = 7.5% chance of success. 5 of 'em = 32% chance of jamming, which is about on a par with a single strength 6 jammer. Looks reasonable to me. Webbers, I don't have the stacking formula to hand, but even so... Only consideration is with drone bay sizes - some things get differing sized drone bays, but without an explict 'drone bonus'. Not that I'll mind if I don't have to worry about what mix of heavy/medium/small drones I'll use on my scorpion, because I can only use 5 anyway.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2005.10.31 15:06:00 - [2] I rather like it. EW drones are only going to be limited to 5, and will suffer stacking penalties, so I don't see a huge problem. 1 large jamming drone vs. a strength 20 sensor has a jamming chance of 1.5 / 20 = 7.5% chance of success. 5 of 'em = 32% chance of jamming, which is about on a par with a single strength 6 jammer. Looks reasonable to me. Webbers, I don't have the stacking formula to hand, but even so... Only consideration is with drone bay sizes - some things get differing sized drone bays, but without an explict 'drone bonus'. Not that I'll mind if I don't have to worry about what mix of heavy/medium/small drones I'll use on my scorpion, because I can only use 5 anyway.
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:07:00 - [3] Originally by: Robet Katrix you just said that warp scrambling drones would be overpowered, but this game is in serious need of a longer range warp scrambler. I personally think they would be far more important, but not as effective. if your throwing out mini-NOS drones, why not scramblers. Interdictors.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:07:00 - [4] Originally by: Robet Katrix you just said that warp scrambling drones would be overpowered, but this game is in serious need of a longer range warp scrambler. I personally think they would be far more important, but not as effective. if your throwing out mini-NOS drones, why not scramblers. Interdictors.
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Xothecae Is it me or is the general outlook on the drone changes negative? It seems that alot of the time the dev's will come up with some idea on paper that seems great, but when they submit it to the community it gets mostly a bad response. (Missile change/nerf/fix anyone?). Yet the devs impliment the change anyway. This is in no way meant to be offensive, but devs, pay attention to how a community reacts to an idea before you just stick it in the game anyway. Whenever you suggest any change, you will get a small percentage moaning vocally. You will get a smaller percentage saying 'yeah, looks good' and the other 99% don't mind overly. Whilst feedback from 'the community' is a good thing to pay attention to, especially if they're able to quote specific examples of 'imbalance' with, ya'know, realistic figured (like, how every time $shiptype goes up against a nos-dominix, they get pwned, because there's no sensible defense against 6 noses and 15 heavy drones that can do any damage type they feel like, just to take a random example). 'OMGNOES' posts on the other hand should always be placed in the circular file. This is a 'on the test server' change, and I have absolutely no doubt that if you come back with real feedback of how this behaviour changes gameplay in an imbalancing fashion, then it'll be looked at. The 'thermal damage only' on gallente seems to be causing some upset. But then again, drones don't use cap, grid, or CPU, so surely _some_ limitations make sense? Your average drone carrier has a different edge now - versatility. Especially with EW drones - fighting an opponent, and he's overloading your tank, pull out the armour rep drones. (And yes, FWIW I fly caldari, so there's a bit of schadenfreude popping up here)
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2005.10.31 17:47:00 - [6] Originally by: Xothecae Is it me or is the general outlook on the drone changes negative? It seems that alot of the time the dev's will come up with some idea on paper that seems great, but when they submit it to the community it gets mostly a bad response. (Missile change/nerf/fix anyone?). Yet the devs impliment the change anyway. This is in no way meant to be offensive, but devs, pay attention to how a community reacts to an idea before you just stick it in the game anyway. Whenever you suggest any change, you will get a small percentage moaning vocally. You will get a smaller percentage saying 'yeah, looks good' and the other 99% don't mind overly. Whilst feedback from 'the community' is a good thing to pay attention to, especially if they're able to quote specific examples of 'imbalance' with, ya'know, realistic figured (like, how every time $shiptype goes up against a nos-dominix, they get pwned, because there's no sensible defense against 6 noses and 15 heavy drones that can do any damage type they feel like, just to take a random example). 'OMGNOES' posts on the other hand should always be placed in the circular file. This is a 'on the test server' change, and I have absolutely no doubt that if you come back with real feedback of how this behaviour changes gameplay in an imbalancing fashion, then it'll be looked at. The 'thermal damage only' on gallente seems to be causing some upset. But then again, drones don't use cap, grid, or CPU, so surely _some_ limitations make sense? Your average drone carrier has a different edge now - versatility. Especially with EW drones - fighting an opponent, and he's overloading your tank, pull out the armour rep drones. (And yes, FWIW I fly caldari, so there's a bit of schadenfreude popping up here)
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.10.31 19:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Grimpak btw, this popped up in my corp chat: if we lose the ability of fielding more than 5 drones, but we gain the sentry drones, what about when we go on a fleet battle and everyone has arround 3 sentry drones? multiply that for 100 peeps (50 vs 50). that's right. you thought that domis were a blob in a can, wait till you see that. What, your fleets didn't use drones already?
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2005.10.31 19:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Grimpak btw, this popped up in my corp chat: if we lose the ability of fielding more than 5 drones, but we gain the sentry drones, what about when we go on a fleet battle and everyone has arround 3 sentry drones? multiply that for 100 peeps (50 vs 50). that's right. you thought that domis were a blob in a can, wait till you see that. What, your fleets didn't use drones already?

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